Gay child rapist LGBT supporting openly gay flaming faggot Rand Pate Director of Corporate Communications of Epoch.com, LLC is still playing the run block and hide game like all lying faggots and whores do when they know they have done wrong and got owned and caught in a lie. Not only that but he is still committing felony fraud banging peoples credit cards illegally without there permission. Which faggot in the FBI is this homo sucking off? Must be one in Santa Monica Fagafornia!!!!
2644 30th Street 2nd Floor
Santa Monica, CA 90405
United States
Take a look at some of these comments about what he is doing I found on google:
Date
Title
City, State
1, Report #793178
Oct 28 2011
06:51 PM
epoch.com A FRAUDULENT OPERATION, Internet
Epoch.com engages in fraudulent withdrawing from ex-customers accounts. I am trying in Australia to get them blacklisted by all of the 4 major banks. This continual fraud can be confirmed by googling epoch.com reviews. It is a mystery how they can continue this criminal activity. Is it because so many punters are embarrassed to prosecute because they specialise in Adult sites? I’m not and will gladly testify against these crims. Why isn’t the FBI investigating, because their activity extends across several states?
epoch.com
Entity: , Internet
, Internet
2, Report #289806
Dec 07 2007
05:30 PM
Epoch.com Failure to cancel introductory subscription Internet Internet
Introductory offer – 3 days free – was canceled online within hours of accepting offer. However, billing has continued for 5 months. Epoch.com is a charge-processing company that many sites use, so it is not clear where the blame should be laid. Daniel Auburndale, MassachusettsU.S.A.
Epoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
3, Report #361324
Aug 10 2008
12:21 PM
EPoch.com Ripoff’s and Sams Marina Del Ray California
On July 5th I noticed $39.00 deducted from my account from Epoch.com. I called and they said I purchased porn from a website and used their site to pay for it. I said no, I didn’t. They gave me the email address that was used, and ofcoarse it wasn’t mine. They advised me to file a police report, I did, and called my bank to stop my debit card. I got all my money returned within 5 days, and know it was my cousin who stole my credit card information to use for porn. But this website needs to be shut down! They should NOT be able to access or charge anything to your account unless you can confirm your home address to them or some other personal information to them, plus I am a woman and my cousin is a man and they still allowed him to use it. Anyone else who’s been charged for fee’s you did not do. Print it out, take it to your local police department, file a report, send that to your bank or credit card company and don’t bother fighting with Epoch.com just let the authorities do it, YOU WILL get your money back that way. Po’datscams Garden Grove, CaliforniaU.S.A.
Epoch.com
Entity: Marina Del Ray, California
Marina Del Ray, California
4, Report #362992
Jul 15 2012
11:45 PM
Epoch.com They are uncontactable and scam artists Online Internet
I had one problem with them which was enough for a lifetime. I ordered a 3 day trial from a particular website ::cough::. You all know what kind of website this was…Anyway, I know the rules. You need to cancel at least 24 hours before the trial is up. Which means the next day by midnight exactly.It didn’t even get that far. The site wasn’t allowing me in. So basically I paid for nothing. I tried to contact the site, of course no response.I try to contact epoch.com, no response. I cancel to ensure they don’t keep f***ing me over.I can only imagine if I forgot to cancel. I would have been charged $20 a month for life. Their systems seem totally automated, and it is likely that they expect you to have to go to the bank to stop them.Meanwhile they rake in all the money they can before the bank can put an end to it.Of course what am I going to do about $7.50? Stomp into the bank and demand they waste their time trying to get some site to cough up that chump change.In addition because of the nature of the purchase even if I had a substantial claim it would be highly embarrassing to tell the banking staff about the situation.I won’t bother putting up the site that scammed me, but I will leave up that epoch.com are scam artists. Don’t ever sign up with them.CCbill.com is fine as long as you read the fine print. They are trustworthy, but they are unhelpful if there is a problem.That is all.David SF, CaliforniaU.S.A.
Epoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
5, Report #433043
Mar 11 2009
10:51 AM
Epoch.com Company STOLE from my checking account – FRAUD! California Nationwide
I logged in to my checking account to see if my paycheck was deposited and noticed that I had some ‘unknown’ charges to my account. The transactions were listed as ‘Epoch.com’ and when I visited their website it says that they are an Internet payment transaction company. They only billed me for two days (so far), but each transaction is actually two transactions. They first took $1.95 and then took $24.95 – on two separate occasions (so 4 debits altogether). I have no idea who this company is or where they got my credit/debit card info. I called my bank and had them cancel the card and issue a new one. Upon reading the other Ripoff Reports on Epoch, it seems that this is what this company does. Companies like this should be investigated and shut down! They take ‘small bites’ out of your account, so if you are not paying attention you may completely overlook them. Madasheck Boston, MassachusettsU.S.A. *EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account that someone wrongfully takes it from you! EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back! HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO: Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don’t delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E. According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days. If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it’s their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges. Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you’re at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent! DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get. And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state. Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth. If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.
Epoch.com
Entity: Nationwide, California
Nationwide, California
6, Report #319412
Mar 19 2008
03:02 PM
EPoch.com Scam, Free trial, Credit Card, Porn LA Internet
I dont know how but in some way that only God knows, this Epoch.com got ahold of my credit card number and started billing me monthly! I emailed them, and after several failed attempts to establish some sort of communication i had to use the Credit card company itself to intervene! Bill Langstport, West VirginiaU.S.A.
EPoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
7, Report #317478
Mar 13 2008
04:24 AM
EPOCH.COM, WCBILLING.COM, Billed for services not requested Internet
I joined Local Dating Action in late 2007. Memebership charges were routinely levied monthly, and there were no problems. Then in January came an avalanche of charges. I communicated with the group in mid -February over repeated, outrageous charges being levied on my credit card by them via two agencies- CS8WEB.NET and EPOCH.COM. It was patently clear from the charges and the dates associated with them that the claims for alleged services were fraudulant. I challenged Local Dating over their legitmacy, and they agreed to refund charges for services not delivered ( for God’s sake!!), and that that would be the end of it. My membership would be cancelled with no further charges being levied before I left Not so – I have just received my latest card ststement: I got the refunds for CS8WEB.NET charges on the January bill, but not for EPOCH.COM charges!!!! Not only that , but now I also discover that new charges were levied AFTER the discontinuance agreement in February. Specifically: on 25/02/08 by EPOCH.COM *HILLSARTCO 3106645810 ( never heard of them) – references 24110398055/54 for $47.29; on 26/02/08 by WCBILLING.COM 1866-499-9191 – reference 74580458056 for USD4.99 On 27 /02/08 by WCBILLING.COM 1866-499-9191 reference 74580458057 for USD39.98 0n 6/03/06 by EPOCH.COM *WEBSTARMAR 3106645810 ( never heard of them) – reference 24110398065 for $47.04 Thank you Ian Turton MalandaAustralia
EPOCH.COM, WCBILLING.COM,
Entity: Internet
Internet
8, Report #288487
Dec 02 2007
11:06 PM
Epoch.com Internet Service, Merchant Services Marina Del Rey California
I was charged $2.99 on 11-13, $39.97 on 11-14 and $38.73 & $39.95 on 11-16. I purchase nothing from this company. Daryl Houston, TexasU.S.A.
Epoch.com
Entity: Marina Del Rey, California
Marina Del Rey, California
9, Report #294398
Dec 26 2007
04:11 AM
Epoch.com scammed by making an unauthorized charge to my credit card Internet
Jumped online to check my overspend for Christmas, and there’s around $180 of charges from Epoch that I have no records for, and have never made. I’ve never signed up to an adult site or anything, so there should be no recurring payments. I have contacted my bank, and will ring them tomorrow and have them re-issue my credit card. I’ve never before paid or received payment from Epoch…so someone else has given them my details. Thankfully, it’s only $180, but I’m going to follow it up. My brother’s a lawyer, so at least I know my rights. Bit of a let-down after a wonderful Christmas, to have been scammed by someone, but on a positive note, I still have hopes for my money. I’m an Australian, so the rules etc. might be a bit different from the U.S., but ethics must prevail!!! Daniel QLDAustralia
Epoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
10, Report #291901
Dec 15 2007
06:43 PM
Epoch.com Continue charging after cancellation Marina Del Rey Internet
The account in question was canceled on 11/13/2007. I was charged again on 12/11/2007 for $26.98. They claim not to have a record of my conversation of a cancellation. I spoke with one of their customer service persons and was abruptly hung up on. They refuse to refund the amount of 26.98, which is the amount that was charged. Tiredofit Union, New HampshireU.S.A.
Epoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
11, Report #295714
Dec 30 2007
04:06 PM
Epoch.com ONLINE UNAUTHORIZED CHARGES TO DEBIT CARD Internet Florida
Epoch.com charged 69.95 to my checking account with my debit card. They were NOT authorized to do so. BEWARE. Luckily, I have a good bank and they are taking care of it. I made them aware of the numerous consumer complaints; on this site and others, including the BBB, as I have also filed a complaint with them. It has made a difference. Cancel your debit/credit card and get them to send you a new one, with a new number. The end, epoch.com. The end. Elt New Port Richey, FloridaU.S.A.
Epoch.com
Entity: Florida, Internet
Florida, Internet
12, Report #340340
Jun 14 2008
07:35 PM
Epoch.com Charging me for services i dont use on net. internet
This company has been charging my credit card monthly for services i have never signed up for. Its some pornographic site that claims to never bill your credit card yet i keep getting billed monthly. Pierced86 joliet, IllinoisU.S.A.
Epoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
13, Report #970532
Nov 17 2012
07:55 AM
Epoch.com XXXBlackBook Fraud Scam Deceptive, Internet
Epoch.com a/k/a XXXBlackBook.com appears to be a scam. The girls on the site are not real. But most outrageous are the fake messages, flirts and contacts by these fake members. Typically, the women who send a message have only one photo posted; an incomplete profile; and take days to respond. Their messages are short, vague, one sentence lines that, with hindsight, are fake. I strongly recommend you stay away from this site.
Epoch.com
Entity: , Internet
, Internet
14, Report #1045231
Apr 22 2013
11:55 AM
epoch.com sexplaycam.com Took 33% higher amount than the subscription was advertised at. Internet
Epoch debited my card for an amount 33% greater than sexplaycam.com’s subscription. Did not e-mail me a receipt therefore I had no membership no. for the site in order to cancel the recurring subscription. sexplaycam.com is a scam and fake site. I feel sick at being duped and losing so much money.
epoch.com
Entity: , Internet
, Internet
15, Report #1224180
Apr 22 2015
03:04 PM
Epoch.com Theft Fraud Credit Card Fraud San Diego Internet-Calif.
Epoch.com fraudulently billed my credit card; I never signed up for any subscription service online or anywhere else. Upon calling the number on their website I was told they would cancel some subscription I never had but refused to refund my money-big surprise considering they are thieves and a scam company. If you look at their website its pretty clear they are not an actual company; rather internet thieves who steal credit card numbers to fraudulently bill them. They also have zero contact info. and no physical address listed, not even a po box! I have also filed a report with the California Attorney General’s office considering their phone number shows San Diego CA; although I’m not even sure if that number is not a fake number along with the rest of their info. If you see Epoch.com show up on your credit card; know it is a scam and cancel your card or they will just happily keep billing you for services that don’t exist and you never placed.
Epoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
16, Report #1427253
Feb 05 2018
07:07 AM
epoch.com illegal charges to my debit card California
this company charged me three 25.00 charge in 1 then2 then3 came to 75.00 i did not make this charge and no one has my account number or card but me i want the 75.00 back on my account they somehow got
epoch.com
Entity: California
California
17, Report #281546
Oct 29 2007
08:52 AM
Epoch.com epoch.com site used by fraudsters Marina Del Ray California
I have been charged against my debit card since March amounts appearing as epoch.com. I stupidly did not notice it until today. Apparently, epoch.com is a billing processor, and can be used by frauds if they have your credit card number to bill things. My card number must have been stolen by someone when I was in Italy last March, and they have been using it (laundering the charges through epoch.com) to pay for internet porn website access. The customer service at epoch.com were very useful, had the computer ID and email address of the thief – but I am surprised it is this easy to accomplish. Beware, and check your statements more carefully than I have. Kristian LondonUnited Kingdom > According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days. If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it’s their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges. Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you’re at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent! DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get. And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state. Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the chargetruth. If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the
Epoch.com
Entity: Marina Del Ray, California
Marina Del Ray, California
18, Report #357325
Jul 30 2008
09:12 AM
Epoch.com, WcBilling.Com, Webcams.com, EpochEU Watch out for Girls that mention Webcams.com Internet
I have been contacted Several times in recent days by girls on MSN and yahoo wanting to meet, however after a couple of minutes they tell me that If I sign up for Webcams.com they will meet with me in person. I eventually got so sick of it that I traced back one girls IP traffic and found something interesting. She was lying to me, Imagine my horror to discover that she was not in the city she claimed to be in (Neither was her supposed invisible proxy server it was in brazil) so I requested the public traffic logs from the server she was using an ip spoofer, why would she hide her location and tell me she was somewhere she was not? This sounds alot like fraud to me, needless to say, other people who have fallen for this fraud have been charged multiple charges by several companies. I refuse to believe that these companies have no knowledge of these events, they are making money thanks to the endless efforts of complete strangers (or will it be co-defendants) who make no profit from these activities? whatever. Just be careful, If you meet someone in chat and they want you to sign up for anything!…. CLOSE THE CHAT AND BLOCK THEM. Kawaii beaumont, TexasU.S.A.
Epoch.com, WcBilling.Com, Webcams.com, EpochEU
Entity: Internet
Internet
19, Report #357015
Jul 29 2008
12:57 PM
EPOCH.com Refuses to cancel membership even though I didn’t sign up in the first place…. Juneau Internet
I signed up for a 3 day trial membership and unchecked the box that said ‘renew membership for $39.95.’ A week later my card was charged $39.95 so i thought, okay, i must not have checked it. I had to go to epoch.com to cancel this membership because they are a third party billing company. I got a confirmation number and an e-mail that my membership was cancelled. A month later there was ANOTHER charge for $39.95! I e-mailed them, called them, and submitted numerous ‘cancel membership’ e-mails on their page. All to no avail. I called my bank and they luckily got someone on the phone who guarenteed that my membership was cancelled from now on and would give me a refund of the second charge. Since I read the other reports on this website I decided not to take a chance and cancelled my credit card. Cencelling your credit card is probably the only way to get them to stop taking your money. stephanie juneau, AlaskaU.S.A.
EPOCH.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
20, Report #376909
Sep 29 2008
09:22 AM
EPOCH.COM $30 UNAUTHORIZED preauthorized debit from my personal checking account. Nationwide
I checked my online bank account; as I usually do to assure all my pending transactions had been processed. Turns out, I came across $30 charge from a company I had never heard of. Since, I have been monitoring all my expences, etc. I knew something was not right. I decided to look into the company and the first text I came across is: Epoch is an Internet Payment Service Provider (IPSP) which enables merchants to accept payments online. If you received a bill to your bank or credit card that led you to this page, we may have processed a charge to your account on behalf of an Internet merchant. You can retrieve information about charges to your account by using the forms below or by contacting our world class customer service department 24 hours per day. Funny thing is that they have the nerve to ask you for your account number in order to track your order. A more direct approach to once again rip someone off. I have reported the fraudulant transaction to my bank. The bank requested I complete, sign and have notarized an Affidavit of Unauthorized Transaction form. At first, they were resistant in sending me this form via fax, but, I insisted in speaking with a supervisor who had agreed to do so. Very unfortunate these companies for the most part get away with thieving from hard working citizens. MEV Kew Gardens, New YorkU.S.A.
EPOCH.COM
Entity: Nationwide
Nationwide
21, Report #380150
Oct 10 2008
02:15 PM
MEMLTVVENT.COM – EPOCH.COM THOSE COMPANY’S HAVE BILLED ME FOR PURCHASES I DID NOT ORDER Nationwide
The EPOCH.COM company have billed me for 2 purchases each at the amount of 2x $29.95 respectively on 9 September 2008 and 29 September 2008 These purchases were billed on my AARP Visa card. The MEMLTVVENT.COM company has billed me for 1 purchase at the amount of $44.47 on October 9, 2008 This purchase was billed on my SUNTRUST Visa card. I have called both companysto cancel all these purchases and they promised to do so. Thank you in the hope that you could help me solve this issue. Henri Derwood, MarylandU.S.A.
MEMLTVVENT.COM – EPOCH.COM
Entity: Nationwide
Nationwide
22, Report #394231
Nov 23 2008
03:19 PM
EPOCH.COM*MANSTERMED Just 118.83 CAD dollars were taken away from my credit card California
I am concerned of some amount taken from my credit card. I checked my Visa account on Internet and I realized that 118.83 dollars were taken away from it. Honestly I didn’t purchase anything with that amount; It had been gone for some reason. I would appreciate if you could plese call me at this number: 1 (778) 773 0784 Felipemelendez New Westminster, British ColumbiaCanada
EPOCH.COM*MANSTERMED
Entity: California
California
23, Report #763221
Aug 10 2011
08:43 AM
Epoch.com Got my bank account card somewhere,, hit small charges until I noticed Internet
Got my card somewhere.. Not legit company but Uses paypal front to. Mask their crooked site..got small amounts everyday until I noticed and cancelled debit card.. Real scumbags..
Epoch.com
Entity: , Internet
, Internet
24, Report #941765
Sep 15 2012
05:34 PM
epoch.com*bevederes xxxblackbook.com PRESENTLY TACKING MONEY OFF CREDIT CARD WITH NO AUTHORITY FROMME internet, Nationwide
These people Dating site i beleive are presently tacking off money from my credit card without my authority and or knowledge or permission granted.
epoch.com*bevederes
Entity: internet, Nationwide
internet, Nationwide
25, Report #304152
Jan 28 2008
06:19 PM
EPOCH.COM*RKNETMEDIA RECURRING PAYMENT FROM MY CHECKING ACCOUNT THAT IS NOT AUTHORIZED BY ME. Ceres California Internet
I was checking the status of my bank account to see if I needed to deposit more cash to cover my bills. I went to the internet site for my bank and noticed a payment made to epoch.com*rknetmedia. I did a Google search to see who they are and found a billing support company. Never at any time have I signed up with Epoch and certainly have never authorized a recurring payment to rknetmedia. I got an online chat, customer service representative who asked me if I would like to cancel my account with them. I replied yes please, I asked for a confirming e-mail and have heard nothing since. Tomorrow I will cancel this bank account and open another, hopefully they will not clean me out before then. Martin Ceres, CaliforniaU.S.A.
EPOCH.COM*RKNETMEDIA
Entity: Internet
Internet
Date
Title
City, State
26, Report #297666
Jan 07 2008
07:05 AM
Epoch.com they took on the eleventh and twelveth about 75 euros from my mastercard account Internet
In two consecutive days they trook about 75 EUROS from my mastercard account without giving any notice or excuse about it.I did not buy anything without knowing it. It happened on the eleventh and twelveth of December 2007. Yours sincerely, Dr. spiros AthensGreece
Epoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
27, Report #347734
Jul 05 2008
01:28 PM
Paynet.com Epoch.com Credit card ripoff Las Angeles California
I was notified by my bank that a suspicius charge was being debit to my account and I researched to find out it was taken 12 times before I or bank noticed. I thought it was a life insurance policey that was being deducted. Backwater West Monroe, LouisianaU.S.A.
Paynet.com Epoch.com
Entity: Las Angeles, California
Las Angeles, California
28, Report #344568
Jun 26 2008
11:56 AM
Epoch.com*comproducti3106645810CA charged me 11.99 unauthorized transaction. i cant find these people. Internet
These people made unauthorized transaction to my account probably from adult sites. Maby playboy or free trial unlimited download popups. Bones Yorba Linda, CaliforniaU.S.A.
Epoch.com*comproducti3106645810CA
Entity: Internet
Internet
29, Report #480444
Aug 15 2009
02:43 PM
Epoch.com epoch.com nailed me in the bank , Florida *EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account that someone wrongfully takes it from you!
In a period of 2 days, occurring 3 days ago, this company called Epoch hit my bank account for a total of $86.58 over 4 charges. I had but a 40 cents in my bank account when these charges went through and I have obtained 4 overdraft charges totaling $136 even. All that adds up to a total $222.42 of me being overdrawn due to this.Now I’ve seen many complaints from this company on this site and I’m just trying to get to the bottom of how did they exactly get ACCESS to MY bank account. I have had this issue in the past, but I just closed my bank account and started a new one. This is NOT right. Any suggestions on what I should do? <b><font size=+2><font color=#0000FF>EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back! </font></font></b> <b><font size=+1>HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO: </font></b> Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don’t delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E. According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days. If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it’s their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges. Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you’re at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent! <b><font size=+1>DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! </font></b> Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get. And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state. Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth. If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form. <b><font size=+1>CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD</font></b> If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won’t contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here. Remember Don’t let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. <i>The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action. </i> And good luck Let us know how you do! ED Magedson Founder RipoffReport.com Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com Rip-off Report PO Box 310, Tempe, Arizona 85280
Epoch.com
Entity: , Internet
, Internet
30, Report #369458
Sep 03 2008
03:25 PM
EPOCH.COM Epoch.com took out more than $1000 dlls from my bank account for Nothing….. Marina Del Rey, California
For two years this fxxx…g company charged me for $39.95 each month. I didn’t noticed this until last month when my bank account was overdrafted for one of those charges.I called them and they said I got FREE TRIAL FOR PSYCHIC REALM but I never known that was a membership because they never sent me any confirmation email or anything even I didn’t use any of their services.They only gave back four months but they still owe me $800 dlls and they said that’s the only thing they can do for me because it was my problem if I not read the terms and conditions.I filed a complaint on the Federal Trade Comission and BBB but they couldn’t do nothing for me to get all my money back.I wanna sue them but I lived in Wa.State and they are in California,a lawyer told me It’s not worthed because I should go to California.So WHAT ELSE CAN I DO? Somebody should stop them!!I’ts unfair ISABEL Pasco, WashingtonU.S.A.
EPOCH.COM
Entity: Marina Del Rey, California
Marina Del Rey, California
31, Report #504889
Oct 05 2009
09:27 PM
Epoch.com, WcBilling.Com, Webcams.com, EpochEU webcams.com Contacted company to report scam and got $200 charge! Internet
I subscribed to this site to report someone who sent me the link to join and the requested my password. To compensate for it, I got some little credit to check out the site. I was stupid enough to use it and the credit expired with no warning. The chat session continued and I was charged $200 a week later. I let customer service know that I was charged without any warning and they replied arguing that the charges were legit and that they had the record of (quote) the xxx chat sessions to confirm it. Very easy way to make money and run a business. Very expensive way to spend some time chatting…
Epoch.com, WcBilling.Com, Webcams.com, EpochEU
Entity: , Internet
, Internet
32, Report #434127
Mar 14 2009
08:16 AM
Paycom//Epoch.com In January I was charged $39.95 and two charges of $29.95 each while not ordering zero. Internet
When I asked my credit company to credit the charges because I did not ordere or received anything, they did so and the next month the charges reappeared as reversal of tempory credit. Bob l Lexington, South CarolinaU.S.A.
Paycom//Epoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
33, Report #550441
Jan 06 2010
03:56 PM
EPOCH.com tale of the dancing bear joined and signed up for 2days trail on thier adult web site Internet
I was signed up for 2 days trial @ their adult web site to joined the membership, then i got my user’s name and my pass word that they sent me , but it’s very annoying because i wasn’t able to get access to their site, and i could not imagine that i was been charge $59.00 dollars for automatic renewal after 1month and $2.00 for the 2 days trial and $3.00 after i signed up again because i was confused why i couldn’t get access,I learned all this charges when i brows to update my credit card account
EPOCH.com
Entity: Internet, Internet
Internet, Internet
34, Report #274122
Sep 11 2007
10:37 PM
PAYCOM.NET, EPOCH.COM I have been charged $39.98 each month for the past seven months for absolutely nothing at all. Internet
PAYCOM.NET AND EPOCH.COM have charged my account $39.98 every month for the past seven months. I want them to first of all stop screwing me over and second of all to pay me all my money back so that I can actually feed myself on a daily basis. Meredith Malvern, PennsylvaniaU.S.A.
PAYNET.COM, EPOCH.COM
Entity: Internet
Internet
35, Report #329191
Apr 27 2008
04:39 PM
EUPaycom.net – Epoch.com recurring charges for a site I have either cancelled already and one I did not even know existed Internet
I am trying to stop recurring charges I keep getting billed for on one site I did not join or even know existed and another that I had already cancelled two months ago. Bob Waterville, WashingtonU.S.A.
EUPaycom.net – Epoch.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
36, Report #339465
Jun 11 2008
08:55 PM
Epoch.com – RKNETMEDIA I am being billed $39.95 a month for something I have never ordered. I am reporting them as fraud to my bank. Miami (I Think) Florida
These charges keep showing up on my bank statement. I have never used my debit card to order anything, ever. There is nothing that shows who they are or how to contact. I will be reporting them 1st thing in the a.m. to my bank to have it removed. Roxanne32550 Destin, FloridaU.S.A.
Epoch.com – RKNETMEDIA
Entity: Miami, Florida
Miami, Florida
37, Report #411355
Jan 12 2009
08:25 PM
EPOCH.COM OR RKNETMEDIA EPOCH.COM or RKNETMEDIA has been billing me every month for $39.95 which was never authorized by me. Internet *EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account that someone wrongfully takes it from you!
I have been paying $39.95 per month from my VISA for something I never authorized for over a year! Having researched this further, I have found that many people have had the same experience. I’ve cancelled my credit cards; no more free ride for these scum! I am going to contact the RCMP and the Better Business bureau in my area and report what has happened to them. In addition, I recommend that everyone whom has been paying similar un-authorized fees to this company to keep all records of these transactions. Perhaps someday they will become useful. At the very least something dishonest is happening here, who knows maybe something criminal. Daryn Canada, OntarioCanada EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back! HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO: Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don’t delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E. According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days. If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it’s their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges. Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you’re at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent! DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get. And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state. Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth. If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form. CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won’t contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here. Remember Don’t let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action. And good luck Let us know how you do! ED Magedson Founder RipoffReport.com Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com Rip-off Report PO Box 310, Tempe, Arizona 85280
EPOCH.COM OR RKNETMEDIA
Entity: Nationwide
Nationwide
38, Report #1138913
Apr 15 2014
06:34 AM
SocialSex.biz rips you off through Epoch.com — Total SCAM — Internet
SocialSex.biz sells itself as a hookup site, where you can meet members of the opposite sex for easy sex (I suppose same sex too if you’re so inclined, sigh). It’s free to sign up of course but then you have to pay to do anything useful. So what they do after you sign up is they send all kinds of tantalizing emails to you from what are supposed to be other members, except they’re just robots doing their job and it isn’t really the case that a bunch of 20-something hot chicks are right away looking to get laid by 55-year-old guys who haven’t even uploaded a photo yet. Come on! Except I’m ashamed to admit they sucked me in for a 3-day trial that was supposed to just cost $1.95. THANK GOD I used Bank of America’s ShopSafe feature to outwit them — which gives you a temporary VISA number based on your real VISA account but has the added benefit of enabling you to limit the maximum amount that can be withdrawn. So I entered $2.95 just for grins to see what would happen. The site worked well except all that young nookie that had supposedly been emailing me wanting to ‘hook up’ (Millenial for sex date) all went silent and didn’t return my emails. Okay, I hadn’t risked much so no big deal and it sorta seemed like a scam site already. Later that day or maybe next day I got a call from B of A credit card security asking about unusual charges that had been attempted against my temporary ShopSafe number. The scammers processing the charges for SocialSex.biz were Epoch.com (look them up and check out all the Ripoff Reports about them, this appears to be the first Report for SocialSex.biz specifically). They had attempted a number of charges, first for $149, then I think they tried $99, and a couple more lower amounts, finally charging an extra $1 (because I’d added that extra to the ShopSafe card and it was available to them). I told them they were all fraudulent charges except for the $1.95 I had authorized, and could they reverse the charge for the $1 that I didn’t authorize. They said I’d have to go through the processor Epoch.com first, and if I didn’t get satisfaction then I could file a complaint with B of A. It took me a while to get to Epoch.com but when I finally called them I got a snotty little creep on the line who sounded like the type who dyes his hair blond and wears earrings, and that snotty little creep insisted that I had authorized the $1 charge for some other kind of perv site that they operate. I told the snotty little creep I had authorized no such thing and please return my $1 (just for the principle of the thing). He refused and so I told him off and hung up. Later when I talked to a B of A customer service person I asked them to reverse the charge and they did, so f*** you, you snotty little creep at Epoch.com. BOTTOM LINE: DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY ON SOCIALSEX.BIZ OR ANY OTHER OUTFIT ASSOCIATED WITH EPOCH.COM! THEY WILL JUST RIP YOU OFF AND KEEP ON RIPPING MORE PEOPLE OFF! THANK YOU ED MAGEDSON FOR OPERATING THIS FANTASTIC RESOURCE TO HELP KEEP PEOPLE FROM GETTING BURNED BY THE KINDS OF SCAMMERS WHO RUN SOCIALSEX.BIZ AND EPOCH.COM!
SocialSex.biz
Entity: Internet
Internet
39, Report #380692
Oct 13 2008
06:05 AM
EPOCH.com CONTINUES TO BILL BY CREDIT CARD $39.95 Q MONTH FOR THEIR SERVICES AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM BEING CHARGED FOR, NOR DO I WANT IT. WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO CANCEL MY CREDIT CARD AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL STOP CALIFORNIA
I an being billed $39.95 a month for EPOCH services, yet have no idea what it is. Do not recall authorizing this purchase. Want it cancelled. Colleen BEL AIR, MarylandU.S.A.
EPOCH.com
Entity: California
California
40, Report #394702
Nov 24 2008
06:57 PM
EPOCH.COM*DIRECTDIST They have taken over 700$ from my acount I have made repeated attempts to find out why but they just tell me to talk with who I orderd the service from Internet
After seeing the billing on my bank statement I made multiple attempts to find out how they got my card number and who gave it to them so they could charge me there only response was call the company you orderd the service from which is impossable becuase I have never orderd any service online I tried multiple times to get the information from my bank (Bank of America) to no avail the only other choice I have is to close my account which I have had for over 15 years! anyone with information that could lead me to resolving this issue please contact me. Thank you Eric Colville, WashingtonU.S.A.
EPOCH.COM*DIRECTDIST
Entity: Internet
Internet
41, Report #282307
Nov 01 2007
09:16 AM
Epoch.com 3106645700, Paycom.net 800-8938871 ,Web2Bill.com 800.45 , Caboent Group Cegvip 80 , Pay-Lv Unauthorised Master Card Charges Related to Pornographic Sites Web Address’ Only Internet
The following is a list of unauthorised charges appearing on my Master Card Bill commencing in May 2007. I believe these charges relate to pornographic sites which I looked at but did not register. At the time they seemed exciting but not worth signing up for. I am 82 years old and should not be considered a threat. Only one of the 5 web sites I listed is on your Link Up list. Paycom.net. I know from my attempts to contact these people that that there are many other complainants. Any contacts I have made (one or two, several months ago) tell me they will drop the charge, but nothing happens. It is possible that some of these charges originate in Scotland or England as some of the complaints I viewed were from there. It may be that these people change their web address from time to time to reduce the risk of recovery actions. Date MC Charge Info US$ CDN$ Total CDN$ Oct 17 Epoch.com 3106645700 38.98 29.99 29.94 Sept 17 38.98 41.20 19 29.99 31.28 Aug 17 38.98 43.06 19 29.99 33.13 July 18 Paycom.net 800-8938871 38.98 41.86 18 38.98 42.69 18 29.99 33.06 May 16 38.98 44.11 18 29.99 33.70 445.44 Sept 23 Web2Bill.com 800.45 27.83 28.86 21 Caboent Group Cegvip 80 39.95 41.14 Aug 24 27.83 30.08 22 39.95 43.18 July 24 27.83 30.03 23 39.95 42.83 June 24 27.83 30.62 23 39.95 43.92 May 24 27.83 31.01 24 39.95 44.51 June 9 Pay-Lvent1.com (954)379 19.97 21.93 388.11 Gordon Calgary, AlbertaCanada
Epoch.com 3106645700, Paycom.net 800-8938871 ,Web2Bill.com 800.45 , Caboent Group Cegvip 80 , Pay-Lv
Entity: Internet
Internet
42, Report #320125
Mar 22 2008
04:23 AM
Epoch.com Experienc 3106645810 CA The dationg site charged me twice . There are two eb=ntries to my Alliance&Leicester account on the 10th Feb 2008 for #1.05. I only entered one amount on my registration. Glasgow Other
I applied to Friends reunited dating for a short period to reply to an admirer to tell them it was unsuitable. The charge is 1.05 ponds for the period used. However when I got myaccount from A&L there were two amounts charged. Please credit mey account with one of them Alexander GlasgowUnited Kingdom According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days. If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it’s their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges. Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you’re at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent! DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get. And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state. Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the chargetruth. If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the
Epoch.com Experienc 3106645810 CA
Entity: Glasgow, Other
Glasgow, Other
43, Report #324658
Apr 08 2008
05:38 PM
Supportsw.Com, Supportsw.Com, Centhelp.Com, Clkbank*com, Epoch.Com, Teh Network Llc Unauthorized billing of Mastercard by several sites in one day. Internet
I logged onto my bank account on the April 7th 2008 to check the status. I noticed something called Supportsw.Com 8007555 which took off 50.07 EURO from my account. I went to the site to see what it was, and it wasn’t anything I’ve ever seen before or ordered from. Shortly after, I called my bank and said what happened. The bank then cancelled my Mastercard and asked me to come over to the bank the next day. April 8th 2008 I went over to the bank as they asked me to, and they printed out a status of my account, where I noticed 4 more billings from 4 different companies: Centhelp.Com – USD 24,95 Clkbank*com 684j9kpd – USD 124,94 Epoch.Com – DKR 495,83 Teh Network Llc (Yes, it says Teh) – USD 139,99 Apparently, since the bank status info is a bit delayed, all of them took place April 7th 2008 before the Mastercard got cancelled. I’ve filled out some papers at the bank, and currently waiting to hear from them. Marichuu ViborgDenmark
Supportsw.Com, Centhelp.Com, Clkbank*com, Epoch.Com, Teh Network Llc
Entity: Internet
Internet
44, Report #300256
Jan 15 2008
01:35 PM
Epoch.com, Eupaycom.net, Web2bill.com This company charged my son’s credit card for a free trial look on porn site. He’s a teenager and tried to cancel and it keeps charging his credit card. There are more than one involved with this scam. Internet
My son was sent an email by a friend and when he opened it he found an invitation to a free porn site. He went to the site and it said it was free but he had to give them a credit card number. They ended up connecting him to 3 sites, and all three have been charging his credit card each month. He tried to cancel right away and they show he has canceled but they still charge him. He owes $600 to three scam companies and we had to cancel the credit card. I have emailed the billing companies (which all seem to have the same email address, billingsupport.com). I have told them to credit back all the charges or we are taking this to the police. We have not heard back anything yet. Anybody out there had success with this? Angered mother Oceanside, CaliforniaU.S.A.
Epoch.com, Eupaycom.net, Web2bill.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
45, Report #506661
Oct 24 2011
05:47 AM
EPOCH.COM*NETMGT Epoch ete etc CHASE Bank (VISA) caught this before I saw it on my statement. These people have billed me at least 5 time for $29.98 and I have no idea what for! FRAUD! California *EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account that someone wrongfully takes it from you!
EPOCH.COM appears on my credit card statement for no reason other than a FRAUD by them. Somehow they got my CC (*VISA) # and charged me 29.98 three times. CHASE Bank caught it and questioned it first. Apparent phoney operation that sells nothing but runs this odd-ball billing scam. Shows up as EPOCH.Com * NET MGT.EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back! HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO: Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don’t delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E. According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days. If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it’s their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges. Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you’re at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent! DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get. And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state. Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth. If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form. CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won’t contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here. Remember Don’t let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action. And good luck Let us know how you do! ED Magedson Founder RipoffReport.com Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com Rip-off Report PO Box 310, Tempe, Arizona 85280
EPOCH.COM*NETMGT
Entity: n. CALIF, California
n. CALIF, California
46, Report #335856
Jun 09 2008
04:18 PM
EPOCH.COM Charged for services unwanted Internet
I recently had billings from 5 different adult content Internet sites for services I had not purchased. The other services were FORNINPASS.COM and THEGOLDSUPPORT.COM that appear to be the same company under the two different names. Both of them declined to return my money. Another, PAY LVENT1.COM has not yet replied to my phone call or email. Both PBBILL.COM and EPOCH.COM, I talked to by phone and explained the problem. Both of them saying they would refund my money. I really don’t know the originator of this compound problem. I did visit one adult site where credit card was required for access and to be charged $1. I halted te membership the following day, well ahead of the 3 day trial. But it was a problem too that all 5 charged my debit card without any sort of thank you. In other words, in spite of the fact they all had my e-mail, they left it as an unplesant suprise as all my money was sucked out of my bank. My first action was to put an end to the debit card with my bank. Then one by one contacted the billers to terminate the accounts and hopefully obtain refunds. The result is two refused, two said they would return the money (EPOCH and PBBILL) and the last that has yet to respond. But whenever this sort of thing happens, I recommend you first contact your bank. At least there you know who you’re dealing with and can put a plug in the source draining your money. All in all these 5 got $280 of my money. A fairly significant amount. It appears that EPOCH and PBBILL are willing to set things straight. We’ll see! Ron Myrtle Creek, OregonU.S.A.
EPOCH.COM
Entity: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
Myrtle Creek, Oregon
47, Report #345244
Jun 28 2008
01:02 AM
Epocheu.com Epoch.com Took 350. GBP (U.S.$700) from my Bank Account Internet
I live in U.K.I had ordered some goods for my business from U.S. and U.K. firm and logged on to check all had gone through ok. Found 4 payments i didn’t recognise and contacted Bank by phone straight away. They old m there were 3-4 others ‘pending’ i told them it was Fraud but they said they couldn’t sop them!, (strange how they stop an unfunded cheque tok though). Think this could be related to a charity scam, I remember someone coming the door Weeks ago. They say i will get this money back from First Direct Bank but i would rather wait and see!. Skint and angry! St HelensUnited Kingdom
EPOCHEU.COM
Entity: Internet, Nationwide
Internet, Nationwide
48, Report #1097322
Nov 06 2013
08:21 AM
Epoch Online Processing Epoch.com Surreptitious, unethical business practices Internet
I’ve recently signed up for a few adult internet sites. Hey, what can I say, I’m single. Anyway, the online bill processor who processed my transaction was Epoch. It’s a good thing I was paying attention when I made these purchases. Each time, I was charged an extra $1 for a trial membership to VideoXXX.com. This doesn’t seem so bad, until you see that you will be charged $39.95 per month after the trial period, unless you choose to cancel during the trial period.So, I sign up for access to a website, and I’m automatically charged $1 for access to another website which I didn’t want access to? And then if I don’t cancel the access to the second website during the trial period I automatically start getting charged a lto more on a monthly basis?Epoch is clearly preying upon people who are not paying close enough attention, or who afraid to complain to a third party because of the nature of the services they proccess payments for. This is an unethical practice, and considering the number of other complaints on this site, I don’t think they will be in business much longer.Oh, almost forgot. Ripoffreport.com, DO NOT use all capital, red letters when typing Here is a list of things that would make it easier to read you complaint. It makes me think twice about whether or not I should file a complaint or take this website seriously.
Epoch Online Processing
Entity: Internet
Internet
49, Report #345233
Dec 10 2008
08:23 PM
Epoch.com Manstermed Bustyandreal.com Signing up for a free trial misleadingly lead to an expensive monthly membership not agreed upon. Santa Monica California
Epoch.com refused to refund any of the fraudulent charges to my credit card (I use the word fraudulent due to the fact that their merchant’s website was setup to mislead or trick one into an unwanted membership). It turned out that my boyfriend had signed up for a 2 day TRIAL for $2.95 , which unknowingly turned into an expensive monthly membership that was definitely not agreed upon(approximately $40/month X 7months = $280, not including the overdraft fees caused by this automatic withdrawal from my bank). Even though the wording on the website was misleading, Epoch’s customer support would not listen to my explanation. An ethical company would never provide business to merchants that basically setup their websites to scam people out of their money. Their customer support is awful and I believe that I have perfect reason to report them. The law does not allow for companies to get away with fraud and I will make a diligent effort to have my voice heard, so that this does not happen to others. It’s sad that there are companies like this that will find any way to sucker others out of their money and the advantages of online shopping we all once loved are disappearing before us as a result. Christina Los Angeles, CaliforniaU.S.A.
Epoch.com Manstermed Bustyandreal.com
Entity: Santa Monica, California
Santa Monica, California
50, Report #327354
Apr 19 2008
11:15 PM
EPOCH.COM houseguest looked at porno site; cancelled; followed by 70.00 additional charges. Area Code 310–part Of LA California
A houseguest looked at a $4 porno site, and then cancelled membership. Two additional charges showed up on my credit card, totalliing about $70.00. I called to challenge the charges, and EPOCH.COM refused to remove them. Doug Phoenix, ArizonaU.S.A.
EPOCH.COM
Entity: California
California
Date
Title
City, State
51, Report #354655
Jul 23 2008
10:14 AM
Epoch.Com – Manstermed.com – Jovital.com some adult website that put several bogus charges on my mastercard account without permission Santa Monica California
This is pretty scarey and the first time I have ever had abnormal charges on my card. Manstermed, epoch (adult websites) and jovital charges showed up on my mastercard. I do not visit adult websites and I live alone. No one has access to my my email accounts or credit cards. The charges were consecutive over 5 days $10.00, $1.00, $2.95 $29.98, $34.95. My MC was cancelled but in researching what these charges could possibly be linked to, I found several complaints that appeared much like mine. All 3 companies are linked to each other, Jovital was an on-line billing service. Peggy newport coast, CaliforniaU.S.A.
Epoch – Manstermed – Jovital
Entity: Santa Monica, California
Santa Monica, California
52, Report #307677
Feb 28 2008
01:13 AM
Epoch.com Epocch.com has charged $29.95 USD to my credit card for two months now, and I’ve subscribed for nothing N/A California
I’m not sure of the original source of this, but I’m attempting to track it myself. I suspect it originates with a trial offer, I’m hearing of many of them being taken advantage of in this manner. The only other thing I can think of is a PC Educational DVD that I orderred a couple of months back, and haven’t recieved yet, I’ll be checking my records on this as well, and if I find that there’s a connection will let you know. Ripoff Report is something I’d never heard of, but it came up when I searcher Epoch, so I’m assuming that there’s a fairly widespread problem with this company. This type of forum is needed to fight these things, and try to get them shut down. Glad to have found it. and thanx. If anyone has benn able to find mailing info for this company, I’d really like to have it so I can attempt to cancel whatever they’re doing by registerred mail. Po’d triker Saskatoon, SaskatchewanCanada
Epoch.com
Entity: California
California
53, Report #350013
Aug 22 2008
09:12 AM
EPOCH.COM – Mega Site Pass THEIFS! STOLE MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER! bILLED ME 10 MTHS! NEVER ORDER OR SIGNED UP FOR ANYTHING! CROOKS!MAY AS WELL OF COME INTO MY HOUSE AND TAKEN MY WALLET! INTERNET
This company has been billing me for 10 Mths! no authorisaion, did not order anything or join anythig, yet they tell me I did! Liars and Theifs! They returned 4 payments! wow how kind of them! Iam going after the other 6. Have contacted Master Card to help! will keep you all informed! Had to cancel credit card and am asking for 6 payment to be mailed to my home address! Called RCMP and Phone Busters to help in investgating this Rippoff! How dare them steal from hard woking people! Phone Busters # is 1 888-495-8501 Please report this Fraud! Mema Seaforth, OntarioCanada
EPOCH.COM – Mega Site Pass
Entity: Internet
Internet
54, Report #297551
Jan 06 2008
05:08 PM
EPOCH.COM This company made an unauthorized charge of $59.99 against my business Banking card and used paypal to do it. Internet Internet
This company managed to charge $59.99 to my business banking card, using paypal to complete the transaction. Randal Roy, UtahU.S.A.
EPOCH.COM
Entity: Internet
Internet
55, Report #312819
Feb 28 2008
04:37 AM
Epoch.com deducting monthly payments of 14.28 and 21.21 pounds for services never used I did not give them my debit crd number new York new york *EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!
Deduction from my debit account unlawfully as I have never given them my account number. Leslie bodminUnited Kingdom EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back! HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO: Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don’t delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E. According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days. If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it’s their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges. Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you’re at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent! DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get. And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state. Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth. If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form. CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won’t contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here. Remember Don’t let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action. And good luck Let us know how you do! ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com EDitor@RipoffReport.com badbusinessbureau.com www.ripoffreport.com Don’t let them get away with it. Make sure they make the Rip-off Report! We are not lawyers. We are not a collection agency. We are Consumer Advocates. …the victims’ advocate WE are Civil and Human Rights Activists We are a Worldwide Consumer Reporting News Agency …by consumers, for consumers CLICK HERE to read about Credit Card Scams… find out how to get your money back. *Rip-off Report Investigation provides valuable information.
Epoch
Entity: New York, Nationwide
New York, Nationwide
56, Report #1464210
Oct 11 2018
07:28 AM
Duodecad IT Services Luxembourg S.à r.l. Duodead ITS, CCbill , Epoch.com, Aconti, CAMs.pornoxo.com Charged my Pay-Pal Account 3 times for servies Ive nevered received luxembourg Grand-Duchy
This is a CAM website that claims $2.99 per minute. I spent a total of 10 minutes in chat room however I was charged 3 times without my approval. I never receive a notice that I was being charged. This site is very mis-leading and the customer services department said that they can’t refund and dont do customer services issues resolve. This seems to be a reoccuring charge on my pay pal account. I also asked for them to cancel my services which they never did. The company seems to be prticing bad business pratices and will take advantage of thier consumers.
Duodecad IT Services Luxembourg S.à r.l.
Entity: luxembourg, Grand-Duchy
luxembourg, Grand-Duchy
57, Report #288033
Dec 07 2007
04:16 AM
Washington Mutual Bank And Paycom.net And Epoch.com wamu accepted unauthorized charges from paycom.net and epoch.com beginning Nov 2006 Pleasanton California
November 2006 statement Washington Mutual Bank had accepted unauthorized charge of $29.95 from Paycom.net billed October 27 2006 to my WaMu credit card. Unexplained unauthorized fee of $29.95 continued monthly through November 2007 statement then WaMu added overlimit fee of $35.00 October 16, 2007. July 2007 statement from WaMu had changed name from Paycom.net to Epoch.com each billed entry of $29.95 used same phone number 800-893-8891. Telephone calls are a waste of time WaMu refuses to provide explanation for Paycom and Epoch or remove monthly fee of $29.95. WaMu card in a lock box has not been used since December 2006. I have made payment of $30.00 each month on WaMu account. Are Paycom and Epoch business partners affilated with WaMu bank? There must be a paper trail or an authorization of some sort that explains origin of Paycom unauthorized fee. WaMu refused to supply any such evidence. Letters for correction and removal of unauthorized unexplained fees totaling $389.35 plus additional error fees $52.19 charged by WAMU totals $441.54. WaMu reply dated November 20, 2007 says fees will remain. Again my request to remove $441.54 in unauthorized fees have been ignored. Wichita Falls Texas credit bureau suggested writing Texas Attorney General to file consumer protection complaint. It appears that Washington Mutual Bank is part of this fraud since they cooperated and refuse to correct. Grant Wchita Falls, TexasU.S.A.
Paycom.net And Epoch.com And Washington Mutual Bank
Entity: Pleasanton, California
Pleasanton, California
58, Report #689164
Feb 12 2011
08:02 AM
EPOCH.COM *RKNETMEDIA taking money out of my account and giving me the run around and will not stop billing me. Internet
been getting billed buy said company and have called and told them stop payments they said ok then have been billing me still and now the number and contact info i have for then does not work but they still billed me this month.
EPOCH.COM
Entity: Internet, Internet
Internet, Internet
59, Report #330704
May 05 2008
11:08 PM
Epoch.com They keep billing my credit card for 38.41 a month after I’ve tried canceling many times. CPCINC*EPOCH.COM California Internet
After I’ve tried many times by phone – their number I had to get looking for them online, to get them to terminate my account which is being billed 38.41 a month. I just keep getting billed every month like clock work. I don’t know how to make them stop. I feel like it’s worse than flushing money down the toilet. Lotuseleven Topanga, CaliforniaU.S.A.
Epoch.com
Entity: CPCINC*EPOCH.COM 04/04 CARD #6587 PURCHASE #2473692809584052, Internet
CPCINC*EPOCH.COM 04/04 CARD #6587 PURCHASE #2473692809584052, Internet
60, Report #327451
Jun 09 2008
04:15 PM
Epoch.com – EUpaycom.net charging credit card month after month after they have been told to stop California
We have been being charged month after month by these two addresses for 5 months and two months ago we called and told them to discontinue our charges. They have continued to charge and we have close4d the account that they are charging. I see alot of complaints about this company and I am shocked that they are able to continue without the law getting involved. Maybe enough complaints will make the appropriate law to get involved. Jallers Stone Mountain, GeorgiaU.S.A.
Epoch.com
Entity: California
California
61, Report #342995
Jul 19 2011
07:14 PM
Epoch.com, WcBilling.Com, Webcams.com, EpochEU Rip off, scam, girls, girls scamming, manipulative b*tches Internet
I have been contacted via Yahoo IM by three girls that initially seemed to want to actually talk to me, but within about 3-5 minutes would send me random pictures of themselves and then tell me they were models for some site and tell me to sign up on some site so I could rate them highly. This would require me filling out several forms and signing up for some trial for some porn site (webcams.com) that would charge me $4.99 for the trial. The girls all claimed they’d send me some code to put in on the third page and that I wouldn’t get charged. But of course, there isn’t even a third page. There are only two pages to fill out and then you are on the main page of webcams.com and there is nowhere to put any code in. The third girl was the most difficult. English was not her first language or she was likely retarded because she spoke with the grammar of a 5 year old. She constantly had me making new user names and trying different forms. The girls seem confused about what form they send you as well. They give you instructions that don’t apply to the form they’ve sent you. It’s as if they can’t keep their story straight. It is rather easy to cancel the trial though. You simply click Help and ask How do I cancel my account and then you can easily do so. But I don’t think they stop charging you even if you choose to cancel. I think the girls are hired by the site to mess around with men in their 20s to trick them into signing up multiple times and get the website even more money. I will be disputing all the charges put on my credit card by these scam artists and if I do not get all of my money back I will have my revenge. Electricbassguy Sunnyvale, CaliforniaU.S.A.
Epoch.com, WcBilling.Com, Webcams.com, EpochEU
Entity: Internet
Internet
62, Report #411148
Jan 16 2009
10:16 AM
MansterMed, Manster Med Legal absurd billing orders, from MansterMed, compliments of EPOCH.COM Lake Worth Florida
4 months of payments, 40 $/month, EPOCH.COM did not send payment receips for these payments. This is all too bad. Hbogdan VasluiRomania
Manster Med Legal
Entity: Lake Worth, Florida
Lake Worth, Florida
63, Report #317426
Mar 12 2008
09:59 PM
EPoch Fraud – Ripped Off on my MasterCard for a teen girl l*****n pornograph website. Kelowna British Columbia *EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!
This company has ripped me off by charging me for a purchase on my MasterCard in the amount of $101.18. I was told that I made a purchase for a six month subscription to superglam.com. This is a teen girl lesbian pornograph website. Master Card is investigating the fraud. When I called EPoch at the 1-800 phone number to let them know that this card number was no longer valid and that this fraudulant purchase is being investigated, I was told that they just finished crediting my MC Account for the full amount. This remains to be seen as it’s too early to be reflected on my statement. Anonymous Kelowna, British ColumbiaCanada EDitor’s Suggestions on how to get your money back! HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO: Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don’t delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E. According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days. If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it’s their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges. Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you’re at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent! DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get. And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state. Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth. If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form. CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won’t contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here. Remember Don’t let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action. And good luck Let us know how you do! ED Magedson Founder, Rip-off Report.com & Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com EDitor@RipoffReport.com badbusinessbureau.com www.ripoffreport.com Don’t let them get away with it. Make sure they make the Rip-off Report! We are not lawyers. We are not a collection agency. We are Consumer Advocates. …the victims’ advocate WE are Civil and Human Rights Activists We are a Worldwide Consumer Reporting News Agency …by consumers, for consumers CLICK HERE to read about Credit Card Scams… find out how to get your money back. *Rip-off Report Investigation provides valuable information.
EPoch
Entity: Nationwide
Nationwide
64, Report #373006
Oct 18 2008
08:44 PM
Epocheu.com Ripping me off monthly!!! via my credit card although I have never subscribed to them and am not a member of any of their organisations via the internet. Would like to know how to stop this happening to me and others. London Internet
Unwittingly being ripped off on a monthly basis although am not a member of the Epocheu.com group. How do you stop this happening? Will contact my bank. Please be aware of this rip off scam going on, I am a rare user of the internet so beware of groups that may come through another source as this seems to be what’s happened to me! I will update. Take care Jayah londonUnited Kingdom
Epocheu.com
Entity: Internet
Internet
65, Report #447046
Jun 03 2013
02:29 PM
EPOCH ONLINE PROCESSING RIPPED ME OFF FOR $4,000.00. UNKNOWN MEMBERSHIPS FOR FOUR YEARS. Internet
I was taken for 4 Grand from the Epoch Billing Company. I never knew about this company taking 70 dollars from me a month from me. They took over $4,000.00 from my debit, checking account. I just found out this week. Someone else, used my card number to purchase memberships I never heard of, and Epoch is the billing company, they even admitted it that I was not the the one who ordered the memberships. Never did Epoch ever emailed me that I had an account with them. This is 5 years,… this went on. Why would Bank of America let this happen to me? This is a scam company that takes money from people all over the world. Look at, Complaints Epoch. I wrote to the FBI through emails and waiting for a response. What can you do since it went through a Visa Stamped Debit card from Bank of America. How is a person suppose to know if a money was taken out of an account if they never ordered anything? I noticed Epoch this week on my bank statement.. I thought it was insurance. Who is the bank that ordered this transaction? I have been with Bank of America for 20 years. I never had a problem until this past week, I thought. But I did have a major problem for 5 years and never new it. This is a world wide problem with Epoch. They did return 60 days back to me but they still took 58 months times $70.00 Bobbyv San Leandro, CaliforniaU.S.A.
EPOCH BILLING
Entity: Internet
Internet